【转帖】print check history managemen

yang686526

print check history management
as a result of the wonderful forced transition to iso, we're trying to find information on methods used to track print checks. when we make new prints or revise prints, we run through a fairly simple cross check. each engineer/draftsman (we all do both here) passes their prints off to another in the department, who makes appropriate changes, additions, and suggestions, and then passes it back to the originator. this repeats as necessary until the print is complete and acceptable in style and standard. we have, up to this point maintained these copies for a very short period, if at all, beyond the issue of the print which has been checked (our engineering dept has only existed for ~5 years).
rambling, sorry.
i need suggestions or sources of ways to maintain these checked prints. we prefer something besides hard-copies.
there are ideas being passed around, but we thought it might be helpful to get ideas how other departments handle this issue.
thanks,
byron
  
byron morgan - tupelo, mississippi
1947 mayline
solidworks 2008
nx4

the checking function has only existed here for 3 years or so.  so far we just keep the hardcopy redlines in (or more recently on top of) a filing cabinet.  however, i'm just about at capacity so am facing similar concerns.
one obvious idea is to scan the redlines and perhaps store them with the cad data, in a history folder or something.  if using plm/pdm might be slightly different but in principle would make sense.
i also keep a log of all checking where i track how many times the print went back & forth, what date etc.  comes in usefull when people try dodging checking or blame me for holding them up when it turns out redlines are with them.
kenat, probably the least qualified checker you'll ever meet...
at my last company we scanned them into pdf format and stored them on a server that was backed up. we had a full e size printer and a normal printer, both that scanned to pdf.
chris
solidworks/pdmworks 08 3.1
autocad 06/08
we scan to pdf and file away on the network.
"art without engineering is dreaming; engineering without art is calculating."
what kind of naming/tracking schemes are in use?
  
byron morgan - tupelo, mississippi
1947 mayline
solidworks 2008
nx4

file name = 6-digit part number + alpha revision level + numeric version level
example: 845200revcver3
means drawing 845200, revision c.  the version indicates the number of times that it has been "redlined" (3 times) to get approved to go to revd.
some plm/pdm systems use "version", so you might have to find another suffix.
"art without engineering is dreaming; engineering without art is calculating."
official requirement for the storing of print checks?  omg!  i would just right an sop internal expection to the rule right than create that infrastructure.   
matt lorono
cad engineer/ecn analyst
silicon valley, ca
just occured to me, my last place in the uk was iso 9000 and various military/aerospace standards compliant.
we did not keep check prints once the drawing was released.  we had a shelfull of company procedures etc but that wasn't one of them.
kenat, probably the least qualified checker you'll ever meet...
well, the example of mm works for us i think,
ex-001-00 (base release)
ex-001-00 a (revision)
ex-001-00 b.1 (first check of new rev b on it's way to release) and stored in a different subordinate location to where the released revisions are.
we're trying to go 100% ditigal, scanning the bloody papers for storage (that's redlines....if you saw some of the stuff that gets passed for checks.......you'd understand)
matt....i don't quite follow yours.
thanks
byron morgan - tupelo, mississippi
1947 mayline
solidworks 2008
nx4

we're as9100 certified (like an aerospace version of iso...some say more stringent...i think it is about the same).  i used to work for a company that was iso9000 certified.  never kept check prints, just released revisions with revision history.
as i recall a big part of iso quality was just making sure whatever company policies/procedures etc you had were documented and that you demonstrated compliance.  so do you have a policy that check prints are kept?  if so maybe you can just re-word this to suit.
kenat, probably the least qualified checker you'll ever meet...