structural disclaimer note

huangyhg

structural disclaimer note
there are times when we seal a sheet that is a "combined" architectural and structural sheet.  the sheet may be primarily architectural in nature (wall sections for example) but we have come in an added structural notes, rebar, dimensions, angles, etc. instead of setting up completely separate s sheets.
when this occurs, there are times when we need to sign and seal the sheet along with the architect.  
do any of you have any special disclaimer notes that say something like "the structural seal applies only to structural items"???
can you share them?
i don't normally get the request to have my seal plus the architect's seal on the same drawing. if it is mostly an architectural drawing, we just let the architect seal the drawing and our structural is sort of incidental. i haven't gotten complaints from the architects by handling it this way before.  
i just limit the stamp to whqt i am approving and put it under the signed stamp, whether it is vertical, lateral, a specifid detail or note, or what.  to be clearer, i may place the stamp close to what i am approving on the drawing.   
mike mccann
mmc engineering
i don't know what your state rules are, but in my state, an engineer can't do/seal architectural work and vice versa.  therefore, it is implied that the structural seal is only for the structural work.  what are the rules in your state, if any.
i was about to say that, in some states they allow architects to seal incidental structural work.

i have an additional stamp that says "for structural engineering per attatched calculations".  seems to do the job
akastud
in our office, we deal with some smaller remodels and additions once in while where it does not make sense to draft up a separate structural drawing.  in this case we will provide a pe stamp on the architectural drawings which the architect also stamps.  we have a separate stamp that states we are only signing off on the structure alone and are not responsible for any of the architectural design or dimensions.
stamping requirements are established by the ahj.  they only have general rules and in obscure situations, ahj may not even know what is the appropriate way of stamping.  when in doubt, contact the ahj, explain the situation and ask what they require.
i've stamped a structural detail within an architectural sheet before.  arch's stamp on the title block and mine inside my detail.
if there is an seor for the project and for some odd reason, structural info must be shown in other discipline's drawings, se may not be required to sign.  the limits of liability can be handled outside the contract document.  
for incidental projects where there are no structural sheets, but ahj requires the se or pe stamp, i don't know what i'd do.
in california, for typical projects, architect stamps every sheet, engineers stamp their sheets only.
"in california, for typical projects, architect stamps every sheet, engineers stamp their sheets only. "
wow!?!?   really?  why would the architect stamp every sheet?  he has no responsibility for the contents of sheets other than architectural, and no knowledge that the contents were designed correctly.  what happened to the "direct supervision" requirement? i sure would not do that if i were the architect.
jae:
we typically have stamped our sheets only. architect will stamp his sheet even if there is some minor structural on it.
"structural only" does the trick for us.  the architect will seal incidental structural which we redline for them.