unit density of sawdust in a duc

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unit density of sawdust in a duct?
hi,
i am designing some structural support for ductwork which may have an accumulation of sawdust inside of it. does anyone have a range of unit densities that i might use for calculating a load? i realize that it depends greatly on the moisture content of the sawdust, but i would like some numbers in order to get a feel for the design load.
any help would be appreciated.
thanks,
richard querin
i would start with the unit weight of wood (before cutting), which would be 35 pounds per cubic foot for douglas fir.  hardwoods such as oak would be a bit heavier.  in the sawdust form, i would estimate the density at about one-half to two-thirds, depending on how tightly packed it is.
from the aitc timber construction manual:
douglas fir  33.5 pcf @ 12% mc and 35.2 pcf @ 20% mc
hem-fir      26.6 pcf @ 12% mc and 27.7 pcf @ 20% mc
s. pine      36.3 pcf @ 12% mc and 37.4 pcf @ 20% mc
red oak      44.0 pcf @ 12% mc and 44.9 pcf @ 20% mc
mc = moisture content
i agree with kramer that somewhere between .5 and .75 of the above values would seem resonable.  the other alternative is to weigh a 1 cf sample of the sawdust.  also, some manufacturers of dust collection systems might have a number that they use.
just a thought!  good luck.
thanks for the info.
the client has supplied a value of 15pcf and this seems reasonable compared to the values you've given above (the sawdust in question is in quite a dry state).