pe stamping cos

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pe stamping cost
guys, got a pricing question about additional charge if i am asked to stamp the calculation and drawings for connection design.
i didn't stamp them before and only submit calcs. for others to stamping (eor).  now they want me to stamp it. what price diff. does it make on an hourly rate basis? (i know i should cover insurance and add'l hours...but is there a typical industry rate diff. btw. stamping vs. non-stamping?)
please be specific if you can...thanks.
koo
since this thread seems kind of dead, i thought i'd contribute my two cents.  my opinion is that if you're a registered engineer and you're doing engineering, you ought to be willing to stamp your work for no additional cost, unless there's some reproduction costs involved.
discuss!
well put jed. a star to you.
joe tank
i disagree with jed.  anybody can provide calculations and drawings.  the stamp itself has real value - try taking an unstamped set of plans to a permitting body.  stamped work = more value = greater liability - you need a way to capture that cost.
some state codes say that all work done by a pe should be stamped.
i assume it will always need a stamp and charge accordingly.
i agree that you should be willing to seal anything that you design. you are professionally responsible with or without a seal. non engineers are not supposed to perform engineering calculations.
being "willing to seal anything that you design" is not mutually exclusive of being compensated more for actually using your seal.
here's an analogy for you steel guys - when you order steel and require certain certifications be provided with the material, you pay more.  the steel is the exact same, with or without the certs.  this applies with engineering calcs as well - if you don't want me to seal the work, i'll give you a price break.
why
why not?
look, for the vast majority of all engineering work (including most of the stuff i do), i fully expect i'll have to sign and seal my work - i base my price accordingly.  there is a market, however, where pe approval is not required - typically in the residential sector.  as an example, i will provide hvac load calculations and energy forms to mech contractors/home owners for a much reduced price over what i'd charge in a commercial setting where a pe seal would be required.  i'm still making money (albeit at a reduced rate), it has attracted more business for the company, and the home owner saves money - where's the problem in this practice?
another example - i used to do a lot of pressure vessel design work (when i didn't work for myself).  all of the vessels i designed were built to the asme b&pv code.  if a client asked for a pe to verify the design (and sign/seal the design documents), the company would charge considerably more.  the vessel was the same, as was the designer (me) - why do you think the company charged more?  because the pe seal has a tangible value.
well certainly if you can get more money it would be crazy not to get more. but to reduce your fee because you don't seal the work doesn't make sense to me. you are as responsible without a seal as with.
got to agree with ron9876