datum reference frames fo composite tolerences
 

datum reference frames fo composite tolerences
question: can you have the following callout? first tier - profile of a surface w/in .030 to a-b-c. second tier - profile of a line w/in .010 to a-b-c.
i believe that the second tierwould cancel out the top. please give me your thoughts.
tim martinez
anaheim, ca
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since you are calling out datums on the profile of a line tolerance, you are overriding the profile of a surface callout. with datums, the entire surface is being controlled by location (position) to the specified datums by the profile of a line callout. without datums, profile tolerances act as form controls. you could omit the datums on the profile of a line callout and have a valid callout.
marcelino vigil
gdtp t-0377
what we have is an extrusion shape. the entire surface needs to be w/in .030 to a-b-c and each section cut line of inspection points needs to be w/in .010 holding the same datum orientation but not locked to position. how would this be called out?
profile of surface w/in .030 to a-b-c
profile of a line w/in .010 to ?
which datums do we need to use to lock the rotation but allow it to move positionally?
thanks in advance,
tim martinez
profile of a surface is three dimensional while profile of a line is two dimensional.
i can see the possibility of profile of a surface to a,b & c which controls the shape and location of the surface and is usually perpendicular to datum a.
profile of a line is two dimensional and controls the shape of the shape and the location of the feature at its edge. one usually should never see profile of a line referencing three datums.
yes, one could see profile of a surface .030 to a,b and c while the second level is profile of a line .010 (component of profile of a surface) to b & c. (not datum a).

dave d.
tim,
what you are describing sounds like exactly what this gd&t tip addresses. go to this link and study what it says and it would be a good idea to bookmark the link too. there's a lot of good information there. from what i can see, there is no need for a "profile of a line" specification. just refining the lower tier as required while still using the profile of a surface callout.