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huangyhg 2009-09-09 07:04 PM

ieff for composite steel beam
 
ieff for composite steel beam
can someone point me to a reference on how to calculate ieff for a partially composite steel beam? i can't find anything in s&j or online except for a reference to bs 5950-3).
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ieff = 0.75iequiv
iequiv = provided as equation c-i3-3 on p16.1-309 of 13th edition (incorrectly noted as ieff).
thank!!! that is quite a little gem that was tucked away in the commentary.
willisv, i am not sure that's correct. what source did you use to decide that iequiv is the quantity computed using eq. c-i3-3?
for what it's worth, my mentor back in grad school is one of the big-name aisc guys and has been teaching steel for 40 years and he uses eq. c-i3-3 in deflection calcs. of course, that's the way i've been doing it for years too, but it's just because i followed his lead.
also, to further muddy the water, segui uses ieff=0.75itr in one of his example problems (page 580 of the 4th ed.).

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that note about iequiv is in the errata (i did look for that myself).
i noticed ram also uses ieff=iequiv, not 0.75iequiv. also, my s&j text talks about using 0.33 to 0.5ec when determining itr to account for concrete creep and shrinkage.
ok, perhaps that's correct.
i think segui's method is clearly not correct because it totally leaves out the effect of more or fewer studs. even ilb in table 3-20 varies depending on sum(qn).


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