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asme - where to start?
hi, i am interested in learning asme gd&t standards and obtaining a certification. what is the best and most efficient way of achieving this?
any advice from people who have attained their certification would be highly appreciated.
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i would check with any local community colleges. also, check with technical consultants inc
asme has a "conference" once or twice a year. this is to take the class and the test and get certified. i don't have the direct link or information, i just know that 2 of my coworkers are going next week or first week of december.
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i would suggest that you get trained through someone who is a gd & t professional and i don't believe that the trainers in all colleges are certified. also get someone who knows how each symbol is measured and the standard does not reflect this.
i have attached the web site that goes directly in asme so that you might find a suitable trainer.
i think that this should help.
dave d.
dave raises an excellent point; don't assume you're instructor is qualified in gd&t just because they're teaching it. i've seen many college and "professional" instructors that aren't certified by asme as gdtp or gdtp-s, and that leads to bad information.
one other point, you need to have 5 years of experience in gd&t before you can get certified. if you haven't had any training yet, get started...it's a steep learning curve.
jim sykes, p.eng, gdtp-s
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relative to this discussion, i took the test a year ago and failed with a 73. i studied for months prior to the test using the body of knowledge as a guide and i really thought i was ready. i was deeply disappointed to discover that a large amount of the test was based on verbatim memorization of certain sections and things that i thought were inconsequential such as whether the datum "sucker" attached to the lower left or upper right. it seems that roughly half the test was actual practical application of gd&t and the rest was filler material. i spent way too much time trying to nail down the function of gd&t and not enough time on the minutiae that i didn't think mattered in the grand scheme of things. i re
the test definitely focuses on the theory and concepts, with little in the way of applications. from what i've seen in industry and what i've heard from veteran gd&t'ers, people hit a perception wall as soon as they see an application from outside of their specialty (e.g. a machinist may not know anything about bearings, and blanks out because of it). as i recall, the failure rate's over 80% of those writing the senior-level exam.
while i empathize that many of the questions seem inconsequential to the "real world", keep in mind that those subtleties are important and the successful completion means a combination of practical and theoretical knowledge. i've worked with and debated with a number of veteran gd&t'ers, and mostly they are correct; the differences often come in the subtleties and the extension of principles that you get from knowing the standard.
jim sykes, p.eng, gdtp-s
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yes the amse gd & t test is pure theory and there is a high play upon words. yes there was very little practical application and absolutely nothing about measurement analysis just imaginary lines around planes, etc.
i needed the certification since i train in the subjecct so i wrote the technologist level first, passed it and finally the senior.
powerhound - work on it. i went through the standard until i couldn't look at it any more and i after i wrote the exam, my brain was fried
good luck.
dave
dave, looking back from the senior level perspective, was there value for you in writing the technologist level first? i.e. did it help you significantly in preparing for the senior level body of knowledge? i recall a bit of overlap, but the bok for the senior level was far more extensive and in-depth.
keep at it, powerhound. i studied my butt off for the exam for a couple months, and did a number of practice exams too. good luck.
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