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approved vendor callouts
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i don't like putting full contact info (street address, phone, email) onto drawings. vendor name and city+state should be plenty. the rest of the info should reside elsewhere, i.e. mrp system, where it will be kept current by purchasing folks anyways.
too much of such detail could result in an ecn every time the vendor changes something.
that's exctly why i want to go right to the website. even when they change their phones or move down the street, businesses tend to keep the website constant. or at very least they allow for tracking to the new website, no?
i agree with thetick. i usually add the vendor's web site link to the design binder.
chris
systems analyst, i.s.
solidworks 06 4.1/pdmworks 06
autocad 06
according to the global engineering documents drawing requirements manual (and probably asme y14.24), you should be creating a vicd or scd. the required information is only vendor name, address, cage code, and vendor item number.
we don't conform to this, and instead just list vendor name and phone number (toll free prefered). as others have said, the other details are stored in our mrp/erp system.
i have yet to see any document change process that flags a drawing to change when the vendor phone, fax or address changes.
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i am creating vids and scds and that wasn't part of the question. neither did i insinuate that a drawing change would be generated by a simple phone number or address change. some responders seem to go so deep in their feedback in these threads. just for a moment, assume that all i am asking is if using the company name and website address is an adequate substitute for listing the company name and street address. i appreciate all of the extra information but at times that steers the thread away from the primary topic and before you know it, we are discussing the proper font size for the source control drawing note.

well, since you are asking so forcefully, i question in what kind of industries all of you work. vendor contact information on a drawing? that is something i have never seen, although i must admit to working in a large, global industry rather than a small, local one. if a drawing has to provide commercial information in addition to technical information, then that would be a big change. but, if it gets the job done for you, then why ask strangers on the internet?
regards,
cory
i was hoping to hear from those who might have actually done this or have had the suggestion vetoed at their place of business. i could use this informed feedback to help us make the decision here based on someone's actual experiences, rather than just more noise. i guess you are not familiar with source control drawings. when you limit/control the source it's only common sense that you would list the acceptable vendor(s). this has nothing to do with the size of your (company). it's in asme 114.24 that you list vendors on these drawings. as a side response to madmango the cage code is optional on non-military drawings per the same spec.
the latest question to cory is - what kind of business do you work in that doesn't use scd or vid drawings?
cory,
while i have not seen it referred to in any spec (other than company manuals) it is common to put vendor information on assembly drawings, tying the note to a specific item or items in an integral parts list. this is not a big change as it has been done widely for many years in the states, especially on manual drawings. that's not to say it is correct, as information referenced elsewhere in the product documentation should not be included on the drawing. with todays computerized systems, it is hard to imagine that the source is only located on the drawing.
kimbellingrath,
relative to what standard are you asking your question, or are you simply looking for personal opinions? does your purchasing department rely solely on the drawing to order parts? if so, then adding the url in addition to the address should be allowable. i think that the address should be required for clarity (in the slim chance that there is more than one company with the same name). it is easier to tie a company to a physical address than a url.
ewh,
it's not that purchasing only relies on the drawing but more like it is in the ansi spec to show the vendor(s) which they are forced to use, as in the case of a source control drawing. it also helps receiving inspection verify compliance with the scd callout if they can match up the company name on the drawings with the part marking or shipping paperwork, too.
one thing is worth clearing up here - this does not apply to any random assembly drawing but only to source control and vendor item drawings and it is not just a whim to list the vendor name - it's a requirement.
i would be among those who would veto (or at least vote against) the suggestion.
because the overwhelming bulk of the documents that engineers/designers/drafters work with are usually part drawings, there is a tendency to want to put all information on the drawing. in most enterprises, there are other controlled repositories for detailed vendor information and other information that is out of place on a drawing (mrp system, qc documentation, work instructions).

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