几何尺寸与公差论坛------致力于产品几何量公差标准GD&T (GDT:ASME)|New GPS(ISO)研究/CAD设计/CAM加工/CMM测量  


返回   几何尺寸与公差论坛------致力于产品几何量公差标准GD&T (GDT:ASME)|New GPS(ISO)研究/CAD设计/CAM加工/CMM测量 » 三维空间:产品设计或CAX软件使用 » CAD设计 » 产品功能分析
用户名
密码
注册 帮助 会员 日历 银行 搜索 今日新帖 标记论坛为已读


 
 
主题工具 搜索本主题 显示模式
旧 2009-09-09, 06:09 PM   #1
huangyhg
超级版主
 
huangyhg的头像
 
注册日期: 04-03
帖子: 18592
精华: 36
现金: 249466 标准币
资产: 1080358888 标准币
huangyhg 向着好的方向发展
默认 hss to wf truss connection

hss to wf truss connection
i have been given a flat pratt type truss max tension web member force 350k and max compression web member force 250k. bottom chord is a w12x65, top chord is a w18x60, web members are all hss7x5x0.5. i need to come up with the connections. i started by using a 5/8" gusset plate with the tubes framing into the plate (knife plate type situation) and then welded with 5/16" weld along the 4 interfaces. i have checked buckling, yielding, shear, have added doubler plates to the chords. my web members come within 1" from the flange of the chord members. the working point is at the center of the chord members. i guess my questions is - are many of you utilizing this gusset type connection when connecting tubes to the flanges of a wf chord section or are you mostly welding the ends of the tubes directly to the flange? i did not take this approach because i thought it would be difficult to weld under the 45 deg. braces in a pratt truss.
thanks for your input/info/help
well, either method could be made to work structurally. i suggest you talk with qualified steel fabricators in the area where the project is located. they will be much better equiped to answer your questions on weldability than most engineers. after all, they do that sort of thing every day. also, it has been my experience that fabricators are usually pretty happy to help you out, in hopes they will land the job. or at least, if you work with the same fabricators a lot, they might hope that "one hand washes the other" so to speak. help you out here in hopes that you will help them out later.
personally i have asked basically the same question to several fabricators. the answers are generally split down the middle. some say knife plate is easier, others prefer to weld tube direct to flat surface. it really comes down to what their shop is used to doing i think. knife plate requires them to burn slots in the tubes as well as cut them to length. direct weld is only one miter cut, unless the work point is such that the tubes would overlap, in which case a double miter is required, along with more careful fitup. you may want to shift the work point to avoid this, but you would need to account for the eccentricity. also, knife plate can be difficult to put in place if field erecting. however, if your tubes are sized closely for the loads, penetration welding may be required, so that would increase the prep work considerably.
aesthetically, the direct weld method results in much nicer appearance, so your architect may have an opinion on the matter as well.
you may want to size the tension member so that it is stressed to approx 75%-80% of the capacity... makes for a much easier weld connection
__________________
借用达朗贝尔的名言:前进吧,你会得到信心!
[url="http://www.dimcax.com"]几何尺寸与公差标准[/url]
huangyhg离线中   回复时引用此帖
GDT自动化论坛(仅游客可见)
 


主题工具 搜索本主题
搜索本主题:

高级搜索
显示模式

发帖规则
不可以发表新主题
不可以回复主题
不可以上传附件
不可以编辑您的帖子

vB 代码开启
[IMG]代码开启
HTML代码关闭

相似的主题
主题 主题发起者 论坛 回复 最后发表
hss slip connection huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-09 06:07 PM
hss connection huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-09 06:03 PM
hss beam to hss column shear connection huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-09 06:01 PM
fundamental truss question huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-09 02:11 PM
expansion in hss truss huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-09 09:05 AM


所有的时间均为北京时间。 现在的时间是 06:19 PM.


于2004年创办,几何尺寸与公差论坛"致力于产品几何量公差标准GD&T | GPS研究/CAD设计/CAM加工/CMM测量"。免责声明:论坛严禁发布色情反动言论及有关违反国家法律法规内容!情节严重者提供其IP,并配合相关部门进行严厉查处,若內容有涉及侵权,请立即联系我们QQ:44671734。注:此论坛须管理员验证方可发帖。
沪ICP备06057009号-2
更多