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structural ii
i am waiting for the structural i pe exam result taken this april, 2007.
i would like to know about the structural ii. what would be the benefit if i had structural ii additionally?
can i get more opportunity to get a job or a higher salary?
thank you in advance.
if you pass the strl ii, you can be a se. some states require this and it just looks good on your resume.
i am still loss with all this pe thing, i just took the civil pe with structural in the afternoon, will i be able to stamp residential structural drawing with that in co? what is structural i? which one is better, structural one or civil pe? i asked everyone and they told me to take the civil pe. i think i am going to pass it, i had a good feeling (or maybe that is a bad sign).
coengineer-
i am quite far from taking the pe, but i am always looking to improve my chances. did you make sheets for design procedures or just tab your codes? for example, for a concrete beam would you have a sheet showing minimum reinforcing limits, minimum shear reinforcing limits and spacings, table for h/l to neglect deflection calcs, etc... or did you just tab your aci code well and quickly go wherever you needed?
are there a lot of complete design questions or more looking things up in the code?
do you know why people told you to take the civil? did that come from people you work with? do you do any civil work or just structural? i don't do anything but structural and can't imagine i would take the civil pe, but hey, you never know.
also, i know you were sort of up in the air about whether you would be allowed to take the test or not. did you have a full 4 years after graduation or was it slightly less?
i took the fe in april, graduated in may (so the fe didn't kick in until may), but i would love to take the pe in april of 2010. i hope the 4 weeks between the fe and graduation isn't a big deal.
i already had my 4 years when i registered. even my technician expereence counted as long as you do it after you got your bs. unlike you, i was not fortunate enough to get a design job after graduation. i did get engineering job but my tasks were technician tasks. i think they will reject you if you dont have 4 years when you register (even if you have 4 years when you take the exam). you can pass fe whenever. i passed mine 1 year before i graduated. you can even pass it a year before taking the pe.
as far as afternoon session goes (structural), make sure you know different methods to calculate deflections (virtual work, conjugate beam, moment distribution, table look up etc.), there were a lot of that. as far as the code, there were a lot of questions from aashto bridge loading. you only need to know the loading (chapter 3 aashto lfd, not lrfd, this may change in 2010). you dont have to design anything. if you do have to design something, it is probably something simple. anyway, i think where i am i do not need se i and se ii to design houses. maybe if i move to california or utah, i think they license structural engineers separately from pe. here is a quote from the pe test website:
if you are pursuing a professional license, you must pass one or more of the principles and practice examinations:
鈥?engineering licensure candidates: take a principles and practice of engineering (pe) exam and any required state-specific exam(s). pe exam disciplines are listed below.

鈥?in jurisdictions that license structural engineers separately from professional engineers, structural engineering licensure candidates must take one or more of the following exams: pe civil, pe structural i, pe structural ii, and/or any required state-specific exam(s).
coengineer,
it depends on your state. check with your state licensure board. if a pe licence is all that is required in your state, then the civil pe is adequate. the structural i is the first of two exams that allows you to get an se (structural engineering license). if you intend on getting the se it is recommended that you take the structural i instead of the civil pe. some states require an se for structural design. illinois i believe is one state that requires this. california also requires it for certain designs of high importance.
structural 1 is the pe exam that is structural morning and afternoon. i heard civil pe is easier than structural 1. plus the pass rates for first timers is higher i believe.
anyhow, damn.....georgia is giving me the run around on how to apply for the structural 2 for next april.
i think co may be different than pa. i will double check, but i am pretty sure i need (4) years of experience after passing the fe. any experience before that won't count. i was working part time for a pre-caster while in school, so maybe i can get that to count.
i have to go check the website about that nuance now.
my experience leading up to the exam (structural i) was in designing low rise commercial builings. i had a lot of experience with steel, wood, masonry, and concrete, and did many cantilevered retaining walls. and no bridge work. i feel that my work experience prepared me very well for the se i exam. i spent a minimal amount of time studying and passed the first time.
my recommendation to you, structuraleit, is to try to get a wide variety of experience designing with all materials, and take the se i. in my opinion, it will be easier than studying all the civil stuff you probably have no experience with.
as for the bridge stuff, the questions are pretty straight forward. i didn't spend any time studying it, i just brought a copy of the aashto code and the structural engineering reference manual, saved the bridge questions for last, and looked them up.
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icenine-
thanks! the advice is much appreciated!!
i only made copies of chapter 3 loading from aashto because the aashto code i borrowed was in really bad shape and there we a lot of loose paper in the 3 ring binder. you are not suppose to bring any loose material into the exam room. so i just made copies of chapter 3 and thank god that was all i need. cjschwartz, i guess i should have taken the structural 1. i was still confused even after i read the website. i was afraid structural 1 is not really a pe and it is only part of structural 2. so do i have to pass structural 1 before structural 2? or can i take structural 2 with civil pe? i guess i better prepare for worse and try to take structural 2 in a few years just in case colorado requires se for residential and light commercial buildings. i guess i should start saying "i am a civil engineer" instead of a structural engineer when people ask me what i do .

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